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WASHINGTON — Two of the federal government’s top health officials painted a grim picture of the months ahead on Tuesday, warning a Senate panel that the coronavirus pandemic was far from contained, just a day after President Trump declared that “we have met the moment and we have prevailed.”


The officials — Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, and Dr. Robert R. Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — predicted dire consequences if the nation reopened its economy too soon, noting that the United States still lacked critical testing capacity and the ability to trace the contacts of those infected.

这两名官员是美国顶尖传染病专家安东尼·S·福奇(Anthony S. Fauci)博士和疾病控制与预防中心主任罗伯特·雷德菲尔德(Dr. Robert R. Redfield)博士。他们预测,如果国家太早重启经济,后果将不堪设想,并指出,美国仍然缺乏至关重要的检测能力和追踪接触者的能力。

“If we do not respond in an adequate way when the fall comes, given that it is without a doubt that there will be infections that will be in the community, then we run the risk of having a resurgence,” said Dr. Fauci, the longtime director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who is at the forefront of efforts to find a coronavirus vaccine.

福奇说:“如果秋天到来时我们没有采取适当的应对措施,鉴于社区中肯定会存在感染,那么我们将面临病毒重新抬头的风险。”福奇长期担任美国国家过敏症和传染病研究所(National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases)主任一职,目前处在努力寻找新冠病毒疫苗的最前线。

If states reopen their economies too soon, he warned, “there is a real risk that you will trigger an outbreak that you may not be able to control,” which could result not only in “some suffering and death that could be avoided, but could even set you back on the road to trying to get economic recovery.”


Dr. Fauci’s remarks, during a high-profile — and partly virtual — hearing before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, along with those of Dr. Redfield, made clear that the nation had not yet prevailed.


They appeared to rattle the markets, driving the S&P 500 down as investors weighed the potential of a second wave of infections against Mr. Trump’s promises that the economy would bounce back once stay-at-home restrictions were lifted. Worrisome reports of spikes in infections in countries like China, South Korea and Germany, where lockdowns had been lifted, seemed to confirm the American officials’ fears.


Here in Washington, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Redfield, who have been barred by the White House from appearing before the Democratic-controlled House, drew a very different picture of the state of the pandemic than the president, who has cheered for a swift reopening, championed protesters demanding an end to the quarantine and predicted the beginning of a “transition to greatness.”


Dr. Fauci told senators that coronavirus therapeutics and a vaccine would almost certainly not be ready in time for the new school year, that outbreaks in other parts of the world would surely reach the United States and that humility in the face of an unpredictable killer meant erring on the side of caution, even with children, who have fared well but have recently shown new vulnerabilities.


Dr. Redfield pleaded with senators to build up the nation’s public health infrastructure, even as he acknowledged that the C.D.C. had not filled 30 jobs authorized by Congress last year to expand its capacity to track outbreaks, and had yet to put in place a “comprehensive surveillance” system to monitor outbreaks in nursing homes, which have been hard hit by the pandemic.

雷德菲尔德恳求参议员加大美国的公共卫生基础设施建设,不过他也承认,美国疾病控制预防中心(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,简称CDC)尚未填补国会去年为扩大它追踪疫情的能力而授权的30个工作岗位,并且尚未建立一个“全面的监视”系统监测养老院的疫情,在这次病毒暴发期间,养老院遭受重创。

“We are not out of the woods yet,” he said, “but we are more prepared.”


The two were among four government doctors — the others were Dr. Stephen Hahn, the commissioner of food and drugs, and Adm. Brett P. Giroir, an assistant secretary for health — who testified remotely during the hearing. Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, who like Dr. Fauci, Dr. Redfield and Dr. Hahn is in quarantine after being exposed to the coronavirus, presided as the committee’s chairman from his home in Maryville, Tenn.

在听证会上远程作证的四名政府医生中,除了他们两位,还有食品和药品管理局局长史蒂芬·哈恩(Stephen Hahn)博士,以及卫生与公众服务部助理部长布雷特·P·吉罗尔(Brett P. Giroir)上将。田纳西州共和党参议员拉马尔·亚历山大(Lamar Alexander)与福奇、雷德菲尔德和哈恩一样,在接触到新冠病毒后处于隔离状态。作为该委员会主席,他在位于田纳西州马里维尔市的家中主持了会议。

The doctors’ downbeat assessments came as the death toll in the United States surpassed 81,000 — a figure that Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, noted was “45 times the rate of South Korea.” The hearing, titled “Covid-19: Safely Getting Back to Work and Back to School,” offered little concrete advice on how that would happen. It was the first chance lawmakers have had to publicly question the officials in Congress since Mr. Trump declared a national emergency two months ago — and to do so without Mr. Trump standing nearby.

随着美国的死亡人数超过8.1万,医生们做出了悲观的评估——弗吉尼亚州民主党参议员蒂姆·凯恩(Tim Kaine)指出,这一数字是“韩国的45倍”。这场名为《新冠病毒肺炎:安全地返工返校》的听证会几乎未拿出具体建议。自特朗普两个月前宣布进入国家紧急状态以来,这是议员们第一次有机会在特朗普不在场的情况下在国会公开质疑官员。

Despite the gloomy predictions for the months ahead, the experts drew a somewhat more upbeat picture over the long term. Asked by Senator Mitt Romney, Republican of Utah, if the scientists would ultimately develop a vaccine, Dr. Fauci said: “It’s definitely not a long shot, Senator Romney. I would think that it’s more likely than not that we will.”

尽管对未来几个月的预测令人悲观,但从长期来看,专家们描绘了较为乐观的局面。犹他州共和党参议员米特·罗姆尼(Mitt Romney)询问科学家们是否最终能研发出疫苗,福奇说:“把握绝对是很大的,罗姆尼参议员。我认为我们很有可能会成功。”

And Admiral Giroir assured Senator Bernie Sanders, independent of Vermont, that his office was determined to see to it that a vaccine “reaches all segments of society regardless of their ability to pay.”

此外,吉罗尔上将向佛蒙特州独立参议员伯尼·桑德斯(Bernie Sanders)保证,他的办公室决心确保疫苗“覆盖社会的各个阶层,无论他们是否有能力支付”。

Some Republicans sounded their own upbeat note. Mr. Alexander proclaimed testing in the United States “impressive” and “enough to begin going back to work.” Senator Mike Braun, Republican of Indiana, agreed, saying in an interview, “I have great optimism that we won’t backslide.”

一些共和党人发表了自己的乐观看法。亚历山大宣布,美国的检测情况“令人瞩目”,并且“足以开始返工了”。印第安纳州共和党参议员迈克·布劳恩(Mike Braun)对此表示赞同,他在接受采访时表示,“我们不会倒退,对此我感到非常乐观。”

But the sentiment was not universal. Mr. Romney drew an unfavorable comparison between South Korea, which conducted 140,000 tests by March 6 and has had 258 deaths from Covid-19, and the United States, which had conducted about 2,000 tests by March 6.


“I find our testing record is nothing to celebrate,” Mr. Romney said.


For Dr. Redfield, who has largely been sidelined by Mr. Trump — at least in the administration’s public response — the hearing was a rare opportunity to speak directly to Americans, though he often seemed at pains not to showcase any disagreements with the president. Dr. Fauci, one of the most visible federal health officials and voices in the pandemic, has had less frequent appearances at the podium the past two weeks, since Mr. Trump abandoned his daily coronavirus task force briefings. Often the subject of speculation that the president will fire him, Dr. Fauci reassured senators that their relationship was intact.


“There is certainly not a confrontational relationship between me and the president,” he said, adding that when he gives Mr. Trump advice, “he hears that, he respects it, he gets opinions from a variety of other people.”


The hearing scene was extraordinary. The wood-paneled hearing room, in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, was set up with tables along all four walls, so senators — some of whom were wearing masks that they removed while speaking — could sit a reasonable distance apart. Those who participated virtually gave viewers a peek into their private lives. Senator Patty Murray of Washington, the top Democrat on the panel, appeared beside a pine cabinet in her home office. Mr. Alexander’s dog, a Cavalier King Charles spaniel named Rufus, slept in the background as he spoke.

听证会的场面非同一般。在德克森参议院办公大楼带有木质嵌板的听证室里,桌子沿着四壁摆放,以便参议员们落座时可以保持一段合理距离,他们有些人戴着口罩,在讲话时摘下。远程的与会者则让观众一窥他们的私下生活。该委员会民主党领袖、华盛顿州参议员帕蒂·默里(Patty Murray)出现在自己的家庭办公室,身边是一个松木橱柜。亚历山大发言时,他那只名叫鲁弗斯的查理士王小猎犬在他身后睡觉。

The mood was at times tense. Mr. Alexander put Democrats on notice not to engage in “finger pointing” and insisted that “even the experts underestimated Covid-19.” Ms. Murray followed that by calling Mr. Trump’s response “a disaster,” adding: “The president isn’t telling the truth. We must, and our witnesses must.”


Across the Capitol, House Democrats on Tuesday unveiled a $3 trillion economic stimulus measure to respond to the pandemic, including $1 trillion in aid to state, local and tribal governments, another round of $1,200 direct payments to American families, and more money for jobless aid and food assistance.


Ms. Murray used her time to make a pitch for the package, saying Republicans — who have already joined with Democrats in approving nearly $3 trillion in government aid — had not done enough.


“What good is a bridge that only gets you to the middle of the river?” she asked.


There were flash points between the witnesses and the senators, as well. In one sharp exchange, Senator Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, pressed his belief that children needed to return to school and told Dr. Fauci that his voice was not the only one senators would listen to.

证人和参议员之间也是火药味十足。在一次尖锐的交锋中,肯塔基州共和党参议员兰德·保罗(Rand Paul)强调自己坚信孩子们需要重返校园,并且告诉福奇,他的话并不是参议员们会听到的唯一声音。

“I think we ought to have a little bit of humility in our belief that we know what’s best for the economy,” Mr. Paul said. “And as much as I respect you, Dr. Fauci, I don’t think you’re the end-all. I don’t think you’re the one person who gets to make a decision.”


Dr. Fauci replied, “We should be humble about what we don’t know.” But, he continued, “we really better be very careful, particularly when it comes to children,” because new research is showing that they may not be “completely immune to the deleterious effects” of Covid-19.


The White House has put out guidelines for states to follow, called “Opening Up America Again,” in planning how to reopen businesses and get people back to work and school. The plan recommends, among other things, that before reopening, states should have a “downward trajectory of positive tests” or a “downward trajectory of documented cases” of the coronavirus over two weeks, while conducting robust contact tracing and “sentinel surveillance” testing of asymptomatic people in vulnerable populations, like nursing homes.


But the guidelines are not mandatory, and many states are reopening without adhering to them, seeking to ease the pain as millions of working people and small-business owners are facing economic ruin while sheltering at home.


Senator Christopher S. Murphy, Democrat of Connecticut, complained on Tuesday that Dr. Fauci and the other witnesses were “trying to have it both ways” by saying that states should not reopen too early while giving governors guidance that was “criminally vague.” The C.D.C. has been working on a more specific plan that has been held up by the White House. Mr. Murphy demanded to know when it would be released — especially given that states were reopening.

康涅狄格州民主党参议员克里斯托弗·S·墨菲(Christopher S. Murphy)周二抱怨,福奇和其他证人“试图左右逢源”,他们一方面说各州不应该太早重新开放,一方面又给州长们提供“含糊不清到令人遗憾”的指导。CDC一直在制定一个更具体的计划,该计划卡在白宫手里。墨菲要求知道它将于何时推出,尤其是考虑到目前各州都在重新开放。

“Is it this week? Is it next week?” the senator asked. Dr. Redfield replied that the guidance would be on the C.D.C.’s website “soon,” after being reviewed by Mr. Trump’s coronavirus task force.


“Soon isn’t terribly helpful,” Mr. Murphy shot back.


Sheryl Gay Stolberg是时报驻华盛顿记者,负责报道卫生政策。在《纽约时报》工作的二十余年间,她还曾报道白宫、国会以及国内政治。她此前供职于《洛杉矶时报》,曾与该报城市版记者一起两度赢得普利策奖。欢迎在Twitter上关注她 @SherylNYT。




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